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Christian Bale sheds light on The Dark Knight
Christian Bale talks to Ellie Genower about the new Batman film, The Dark Knight and what it was like working with the late Heath Ledger.
Gone are the days when Batman was a just a camp comic character in
tights. Now, the superhero is brooding, shadowy and even political - and
he's about to get darker than ever.
We got our first taste of this new complex Batman when British actor
Christian Bale gave his intense interpretation of the caped crusader in
2005 movie Batman Begins.
In The Dark Knight, the second in director Christopher Nolan's take on
the franchise, Bruce Wayne is a millionaire with a mission - to save
corrupt and dangerous Gotham City from criminals like the anarchistic
Joker (the late Heath Ledger). At the same time, he is forced to
question the personal motives behind his crime-fighting operations.
"It's nice to be coming in and playing a character where you know the
whole back story," said a moody-looking Christian Bale, who is sitting
hunched forward, arms folded in front of him.
"We are trying to show a very real Gotham and real humanity to a
superhero.
"Batman has no super powers. He has these conflicts within himself. He's
somebody who has great altruism and who has at the same time, great
temptation towards chaos, violence and revenge. He's a complete
character."
Heath Ledger's version of The Joker is also a world away from the
one-dimensional villain often seen in superhero films.
This movie was the last that Heath completed before his death in January
this year, but the Australian actor's performance as the anarchistic
psychopath is already being talked about as one of the year's most
outstanding.
"Somebody like Heath loves to immerse himself completely in the role,
and you can see the pleasure he's getting from that," said 34-year-old
Christian.
"And I feel likewise - that's the pleasure I get from acting.
"It's very satisfying when you see somebody else is really willing
to give so much to their work. I like that. I like feeling I've
really worked at the end of the day and I felt like Heath was similar
in that regard.
"The way that Heath plays The Joker - it's not like we're watching Heath
Ledger enjoying playing this zany crazy character. He disappears and he
becomes this anarchic, destructive, chaotic individual."
Born and raised in Britain, Christian, who began his career in Empire Of
The Sun, is now based in Los Angeles, and after filming Batman and other
American films like 3:10 To Yuma, he sports a mid-Atlantic accent.
Rarely smiling throughout the interview, he has said he prefers not to
reveal too much about his personal life to the press. But, for the record, he
has been married to Sibi Blazic, a former personal assistant to Winona
Ryder, for eight years, and they have a three-year-old daughter
Emmaline.
He also appears not too interested in giving his opinion on anything
other than the film, and won't really be drawn on why superhero movies
like Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk are pushing people's buttons this
summer.
"Absolutely no idea about that," Christian said.
"There's always a need for heroic figures. I think superheroes are a
modern day equivalent to Greek mythological figures. So naturally
everybody wants a hero.
"But by the time I'm in the middle of making a movie, I'm not doing it
because I'm thinking it's what society needs at this time. I'm just
looking selfishly at what I'm interested in and what intrigues me, so I
never feel like I have any authority or place in commenting on what
society needs in general."
However, he does agree that The Dark Knight has political overtones,
with the Joker representing some sort of anarchic terrorist and Batman
using phone-taps to help his crime fighting.
"It can be seen as a political movie - very much," he said.
"There's references which can be seen as topical, like the tapping and
the invasion of privacy, etc. But I like to have audiences decide for
themselves. I don't like it when film-makers dictate what they should be
thinking or correlating."
What Christian clearly does relish is his work, and the opportunities it
affords him, such as the chance to film a Batman scene while standing on
top of Chicago's Sears Tower.
"I like working - I don't mind long hours and strenuous work," he said.
"The main challenge for me is primarily the sitting around, the waiting
periods, that's what I don't like.
"There's a great many doors which are opened through doing movies. Sears
Tower would not let me just walk up, knock on the door and say, Do you
mind if I go stand there, on the edge of your building 110 stories up?
That would be cool. And do you mind if I bring a chopper to get some
good shots of me?' That ain't going to happen.
"I just finished doing the film Public Enemies with Michael Mann. We
toured the FBI headquarters and got shown around every single department
- really insider stuff. That never would have happened had I not been
involved in movies."
Although he confesses to being a big Star Wars fan as a child, Christian
wasn't interested in superheroes at a young age, and says he only really
had one personal hero while growing up - his dad David, who died four
years ago.
"I was never very much somebody who was much into having heroes," he
said. "I don't know why that was. I was getting on my bike, running
around and getting into trouble.
"The only person I always consistently looked up to and felt was
intriguing, and inspired me and had wonderful stories to tell, was my
own dad. Maybe that was the reason I didn't have others - he was always
endlessly entertaining. I didn't need to look any further."
The Dark Knight (12A) in cinemas July 24.
12:28pm Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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